<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" ><channel><title>frgdr.com &#187; translation</title> <atom:link href="http://frgdr.com/blog/tag/translation/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://frgdr.com/blog</link> <description>Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can&#039;t We?</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:07:27 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator> <item><title>I Was Born on a Seat</title><link>http://frgdr.com/blog/2009/07/02/born-seat/</link> <comments>http://frgdr.com/blog/2009/07/02/born-seat/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:34:15 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Shahar Golan</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[positive]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Americanization]]></category> <category><![CDATA[contemporary living]]></category> <category><![CDATA[dictionary]]></category> <category><![CDATA[electronic dictionary]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Engbrew]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Hebrew]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Israel]]></category> <category><![CDATA[subtitles]]></category> <category><![CDATA[technology]]></category> <category><![CDATA[thoughts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translated]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translation]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://frgdr.com/blog/?p=2687</guid> <description><![CDATA[Israeli newspaper Haaretz has an interesting article today on high school seniors&#8217; misuse of electronic dictionaries during their English exams. Can you decipher what the students meant, from what they actually wrote? I want you to barber about your experience Drivers don&#8217;t curfew in red light The weather was father-in-law I was born on a [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli newspaper Haaretz has an interesting article today on high school seniors&#8217; misuse of <strong>electronic dictionaries</strong> during their English exams. Can you decipher what the students meant, from what they actually wrote?</p><ul><li>I want you to barber about your experience</li><li>Drivers don&#8217;t curfew in red light</li><li>The weather was father-in-law</li><li>I was born on a seat</li></ul><p>Read the full article in <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=1097232&#038;contrassID=2&#038;subContrassID=1" title="The strange linguistic marriage of Shakespeare and the Bible | haaretz.com">Ingleesh</a> or in <a href="http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1097206.html" title="haaretz.co.il">Ibroo</a>.</p><p>H/T: <a href="http://guyyitzhaki.com/" title="guyyitzhaki.com">Guy Yitzhaki</a><br /><h3>Similar Posts:</h3><ul class="similar-posts"><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/25/pay-attention-english-speaking-israeli-facebook/" rel="bookmark" title="December 25, 2007">Pay No Attention to the English-Speaking Israeli behind the Facebook</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/21/bad-movies-eighties/" rel="bookmark" title="December 21, 2007">Why I Saw So Many Bad Movies in the Eighties</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/07/28/franco-american-bag-of-chips/" rel="bookmark" title="July 28, 2007">Franco-American Bag of Chips</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/01/10/israel-beautyfree-cosmetics/" rel="bookmark" title="January 10, 2008">New From Israel: Beauty-Free Cosmetics</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/01/18/optical-illusions-finally-israeli-company-tolerate-contemporary-advertising-trends/" rel="bookmark" title="January 18, 2008">Optical Illusions: Finally An Israeli Company Who Will Not Tolerate Contemporary Advertising Trends</a></li></ul><p></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://frgdr.com/blog/2009/07/02/born-seat/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Pay No Attention to the English-Speaking Israeli behind the Facebook</title><link>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/25/pay-attention-english-speaking-israeli-facebook/</link> <comments>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/25/pay-attention-english-speaking-israeli-facebook/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:39:41 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Shahar Golan</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[negative]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Americanization]]></category> <category><![CDATA[contemporary living]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Engbrew]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Facebook]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Hebrew]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Israel]]></category> <category><![CDATA[IT]]></category> <category><![CDATA[MySpace]]></category> <category><![CDATA[subtitles]]></category> <category><![CDATA[thoughts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[web2 0]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://frgdr.com/blog/?p=11</guid> <description><![CDATA[There is no way around it, when it comes to computers, I am old school. When I first laid my hands on a keyboard, I was about seven years old and all the letters were in English. It was an Apple II clone, there was no hard disk, instead of a mouse there was a joystick, [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way around it, when it comes to computers, I am old school. When I first laid my hands on a keyboard, I was about seven years old and all the letters were in English. It was an Apple II clone, there was no hard disk, instead of a mouse there was a joystick, and of course there was no Hebrew involved.<br /> The grown-up world was still trying to make these business machines work, so making them work in Hebrew, a language used by a few million people, was unheard-of.<br /> To this day whenever I get an annoying &#8216;my computer does not work&#8217; phone call from one of my computer illiterate friends, the first thing I am trying to establish is what pretentious action was executed to make a popular software fail. One time it was Nero not being able to burn Hebrew-named files onto a CD. Another time it was a graphics editor that kept refusing to open photos from a Hebrew named folder.<br /> This is why I consider myself old school, as I always try to <em>make it work</em> and never insist on making it work <em>my way</em>. My thinking is always: it worked for a couple billion users, what possibly could Dana from Jerusalem do to make it break down?</p><p><img class="ngg-singlepic" src="http://www.frgdr.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/lingo_computer_1984-10-14.jpg" alt="Shahar with his Apple clone computer - 1984" title="Shahar with his Apple clone computer - 1984" /></p><p>I am aware, though, that I am pretty much alone in this battle: while I consider Hebrew an added bonus within the IT world, most Israelis approach it with a sense of entitlement. &#8216;If it does not work in Hebrew – it does not work&#8217; some say. Others confess to not even trying to read any English, pressing the [Yes] or [No] buttons arbitrarily or by gut instinct.<br /> The number 1 movie database is in English? Let&#8217;s use database number 700 – it&#8217;s in Hebrew!<br /> You Google for answers in Hebrew and get none? Chances are you stumbled upon one of those eternal unanswered mysteries of the universe!</p><p><img class="ngg-singlepic" src="http://www.frgdr.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/lingo_computer_1986-05-01.jpg" alt="Shahar and his brother Liran with their Apple clone computer - 1986" title="Shahar and his brother Liran with their Apple clone computer - 1986" /></p><p>This was pretty much the mentality around here, until MySpace and Facebook arrived. All of a sudden, Israelis found out they can read and write in English when they want to, and they started seeing the benefit in communicating worldwide using one universal language.<br /> For all those people (some of which are my best friends) I hold the utmost disdain:<br /> You who have frowned upon your (copied) software for not doing what you wanted it to do,<br /> You who have allowed your personal computers to contract viruses, Trojan horses and venereal diseases because the warnings were in English,<br /> You who have called your geeky friends in all hours of the day and night, horrified that your computer stopped working after clicking &#8216;Yes&#8217; to an &#8216;Are you sure?&#8217; message box you have not read,<br /> All of you should be ashamed.</p><p>Only now did you discover you can actually put to use the second language your country made you learn from grade 4 to 12?<br /><h3>Similar Posts:</h3><ul class="similar-posts"><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2009/07/02/born-seat/" rel="bookmark" title="July 2, 2009">I Was Born on a Seat</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/01/13/creepy-excoworkers-kill-facebook/" rel="bookmark" title="January 13, 2008">How Your Creepy Ex-Co-Workers Will Kill Facebook</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/09/19/chumbawamba-criticize-myspace-culture-myspace-page/" rel="bookmark" title="September 19, 2007">Chumbawamba Criticizes MySpace Culture &#8211; on Their MySpace Page</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/07/28/franco-american-bag-of-chips/" rel="bookmark" title="July 28, 2007">Franco-American Bag of Chips</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/01/10/israel-beautyfree-cosmetics/" rel="bookmark" title="January 10, 2008">New From Israel: Beauty-Free Cosmetics</a></li></ul><p></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/25/pay-attention-english-speaking-israeli-facebook/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Why I Saw So Many Bad Movies in the Eighties</title><link>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/21/bad-movies-eighties/</link> <comments>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/21/bad-movies-eighties/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:05:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Shahar Golan</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[negative]]></category> <category><![CDATA[80s]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cinema]]></category> <category><![CDATA[contemporary living]]></category> <category><![CDATA[eighties]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Engbrew]]></category> <category><![CDATA[film]]></category> <category><![CDATA[film title]]></category> <category><![CDATA[films]]></category> <category><![CDATA[IMDb]]></category> <category><![CDATA[movie]]></category> <category><![CDATA[movies]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Police Academy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[targumon]]></category> <category><![CDATA[targumon.co.il]]></category> <category><![CDATA[title]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translated]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translation]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://frgdr.com/blog/?p=14</guid> <description><![CDATA[As a teenager during the 1980&#8242;s we went to the movies a lot. Before a movie came out there was no hype, no buzz, no trailers on YouTube, and no behind-the-scenes shown on TV, so picking what movie to see often boiled down to the single-colored text-only poster that each cinema in my hometown published [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img ALIGN="right" SRC="http://www.frgdr.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/engbrew_translation_101.jpg" ALT="Engbrew Translation 101: Film Names" TITLE="Engbrew Translation 101: Film Names" />As a teenager during the 1980&#8242;s we went to the movies a lot. Before a movie came out there was no hype, no buzz, no trailers on YouTube, and no behind-the-scenes shown on TV, so picking what movie to see often boiled down to the single-colored text-only poster that each cinema in my hometown published on the public billboards.<br /> I guess the Israeli film distributors were aware of these facts, and decided that if all they have to work with is the name of the film, then by golly they would make it work.</p><p>You see, I believe a movie is a work of art from beginning to end, including its title, and when distributing it in another country one should try to translate it with great respect and fervor. I guess the local distributors here do not share my ideas, as they pretty much translate the titles whichever way they see fit, or whichever way they think would make more money.</p><p>Sometimes these translations are far-fetched like &#8216;<a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006IIPLM/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="White Palace DVD | Amazon.com">White Palace</a>&#8216; (1990, Susan Sarandon, James Spader) that was translated to Hebrew as &#8216;When a Man Loves a Woman&#8217;, preceding the movie &#8216;<a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6305692572/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="When A Man Loves a Woman DVD | Amazon.com">When a Man Loves a Woman</a>&#8216; (1994, Andy Garcia, Meg Ryan) that then had to be translated to Hebrew as &#8216;The Love of a Man for a Woman&#8217;.</p><p>Other times it seems the distributor was on vacation, as the movies were just phonetically translated and so <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LC4ZF8/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Big DVD | Amazon.com">Big</a> (1988, Tom Hanks, Elizabeth Perkins), <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006J28KU/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Heat DVD | Amazon.com">Heat</a> (1995, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro) and <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001EFUFK/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Elephant DVD | Amazon.com">Elephant</a> (2003, by Gus Van Sant) remained the same words spelled phonetically in Hebrew: ביג, היט, אלפנט</p><p>But during the eighties the biggest film distributors&#8217; shtick was riding the coattails of a successful film and naming an unrelated film in a way that would mislead a teenager to think this movie is a sequel to a movie he already saw.<br /> The number one example for that is &#8216;<a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001907DA/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Police Academy Collection DVD | Amazon.com">Police Academy</a>&#8216; (1984, Steve Guttenberg, Kim Cattrall), originally translated to Hebrew as &#8216;<strong>A Drill for Novice Policemen</strong>&#8216;. After the movie became successful there were six sequels made, but in Israel all of a sudden many unrelated films became &#8216;A Drill for Novice Something-or-the-other&#8217;.</p><p>Here is a partial list:<br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009AOBK/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Gotcha! DVD | Amazon.com">Gotcha!</a> (1985) – <strong>A Drill for A Novice Spy</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300271633/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Doin' Time DVD | Amazon.com">Doin&#8217; Time</a> (1985) – <strong>A School for Novice Convicts</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6301801784/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Bad Madicine DVD | Amazon.com">Bad Medicine</a> (1985) – <strong>A School for Novice Doctors</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6302241855/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Buy &amp; Cell DVD | Amazon.com">Buy &amp; Cell</a> (1987) – <strong>A Drill for Gambling Convicts</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JKHX/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="UHF DVD | Amazon.com">UHF</a> (1989) – <strong>A Station for Novice Anchormen</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C2IW5/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Beach Movie DVD | Amazon.com">Beach Movie</a> (1998) – <strong>A Drill for Novice Surfers</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009F43W2/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Miss Cast Away DVD | Amazon.com">Miss Cast Away</a> (2004) – <strong>A Drill for Novice Models</strong><br /> <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007VY5PS/frgdrcom-20" TITLE="Gladiatress DVD | Amazon.com">Gladiatress</a> (2004) – <strong>A Drill for Novice Gladiatresses</strong></p><p>The really sad part is that I actually fell for it and went to see most of these movies.</p><blockquote><p>If you ever need to decypher the original name of a movie, you can check out <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.targumon.co.il/" TITLE="Targumon.co.il">Targumon</a>, a website dedicated just for that purpose.</p></blockquote><h3>Similar Posts:</h3><ul class="similar-posts"><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/13/watch-film-citizen-world-90-minutes/" rel="bookmark" title="December 13, 2007">Watch This Film and Become a Better Citizen of the World in 90 Minutes</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/09/02/when-vivian-met-sally/" rel="bookmark" title="September 2, 2007">When Vivian Met Sally</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/06/01/third-generation-holocaust-survivor-reviews-second-generation-holocaust-movies/" rel="bookmark" title="June 1, 2007">Third Generation Holocaust Survivor Reviews Second Generation Holocaust Movies</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/08/07/was-the-chicago-film-hunyak-wrongfully-convicted-and-executed/" rel="bookmark" title="August 7, 2007">Was the Chicago Film Hunyak Wrongfully Convicted And Executed?</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/11/26/entertainment-weekly-deems-israeli-film-50-sexiest-movies/" rel="bookmark" title="November 26, 2008">Entertainment Weekly Deems Israeli Film One of 50 Sexiest Movies Ever</a></li></ul><p></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/21/bad-movies-eighties/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Franco-American Bag of Chips</title><link>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/07/28/franco-american-bag-of-chips/</link> <comments>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/07/28/franco-american-bag-of-chips/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:51:19 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Shahar Golan</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[negative]]></category> <category><![CDATA[American chips]]></category> <category><![CDATA[American fries]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Americanization]]></category> <category><![CDATA[catalog]]></category> <category><![CDATA[catalogue]]></category> <category><![CDATA[chips]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Engbrew]]></category> <category><![CDATA[freedom fries]]></category> <category><![CDATA[french fries]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fries]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Israel]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Israeli]]></category> <category><![CDATA[product]]></category> <category><![CDATA[shufersal]]></category> <category><![CDATA[shupersal]]></category> <category><![CDATA[translation]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://frgdr.com/blog/?p=59</guid> <description><![CDATA[I just got a catalog from the local branch of Shufersal, Israel&#8217;s pioneer supermarket chain, and my eyes landed on a photo of a frozen bag of fries. I&#8217;m not sure if it is the oldest trick in the book, but it is certainly prevalent: take any Israeli made product, add the word &#8216;American&#8217; in [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<table CLASS=""><tr><td CLASS="" ALIGN="center" STYLE="width: 300px"><img SRC="http://www.frgdr.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/american_french_fries.jpg" ALT="American French fries" TITLE="American French fries" /></td><td CLASS="">I just got a catalog from the local branch of <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.shufersal.co.il/Supersol_En/" TITLE="Shufersal">Shufersal</a>, Israel&#8217;s pioneer supermarket chain, and my eyes landed on a photo of a frozen bag of fries. I&#8217;m not sure if it is the oldest trick in the book, but it is certainly prevalent: take any Israeli made product, add the word &#8216;American&#8217; in front of its name – and the indigenous people will buy it like crazy.<br /> That&#8217;s how you end up with a bag of French fries that reads &#8216;French fries&#8217; in English and &#8216;American fries&#8217; in Hebrew.</td></tr></table><h3>Similar Posts:</h3><ul class="similar-posts"><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/12/25/pay-attention-english-speaking-israeli-facebook/" rel="bookmark" title="December 25, 2007">Pay No Attention to the English-Speaking Israeli behind the Facebook</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/01/10/israel-beautyfree-cosmetics/" rel="bookmark" title="January 10, 2008">New From Israel: Beauty-Free Cosmetics</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2009/07/02/born-seat/" rel="bookmark" title="July 2, 2009">I Was Born on a Seat</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/05/21/engbrew-flavored-potato-chips/" rel="bookmark" title="May 21, 2007">Engbrew Flavored Potato Chips</a></li><li><a href="http://frgdr.com/blog/2008/01/30/walking-excessories-walking-naked/" rel="bookmark" title="January 30, 2008">Walking Without Excessories Is Like Walking Around Naked</a></li></ul><p></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://frgdr.com/blog/2007/07/28/franco-american-bag-of-chips/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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